Betrayal Of The Planet Of The Apes Comics Coming Soon

As Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes continues to do well at the box office, Boom Studios has announced a brand new mini series titled Betrayal Of The Planet Of The Apes.  The four issues series is set to take release in november and will take place just before the original 1968 Planet Of The Apes film.  The creative team recently spoke with Comic Book Resources and had this to say:  

COMIC BOOK RESOURCES: As you've mentioned, your miniseries is set just before the first film. What made you want to tackle this era?
HARDMAN: When we first pitched the story, we assumed it would need to be set at the same time as the ongoing. The one big note that came back on our pitch was to set it in the classic movieera and include characters like Dr. Zaius. We didn't need a lot of convincing to make the change. Honestly, we were thrilled. It made perfect sense for our story and I couldn't be any more excited to work with the iconic elements of the films.
BECHKO: Truly, it was serendipity.
COMIC BOOK RESOURCES: What storytelling opportunities does this particular moment in time allow?
BECHKO: As I said before, I love the character of Dr. Zaius. The first film makes it clear that ape society was in a state of flux even before Taylor's crew landed. We now have the opportunity to explore that a little bit, and to see Dr. Zaius as a younger ape in a changing world.
HARDMAN: We also have the chance to expand the world of the original movies, introducing new locations and characters. That said, we are hyper-aware of keeping these new elements true to the feel of PotA. I've always been disappointed by licensed books that aren't able to capture the tone of the originals. We're doing everything in our power to make sure that doesn't happen here.

Retroplex Cinema: The Planet Of The Apes Saga Part 3 - The Television & Cartoon Shows

 

Welcome to the final part of our 3 part look at the original Planet Of The Apes saga.  As Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes swings through theaters, we have looked at the original film and it's sequels, now a look at the television and cartoon shows that aired, along with some other fun stuff you may have not seen before!

Part 1  -Planet Of The Apes
Part 2 - The Sequels
Part 3 The Television Show & Cartoon

Planet Of The Apes: The TV Series (1974):  The series based on the successful film franchise was short lived, yet memorable in the hearts of fans.  The series ran from September 13, 1974 to December 20, 1974 and featured Roddy McDowall, who starred in the original Planet Of The Apes films! . Although fourteen episodes were produced, only 13 were originally networked; the 14th episode (shown in some markets, but pre-empted in others) was included in the DVD box set which is now available. Fox had promised to include promotional materials and trailers for the episodes with the DVD set, but no such footage was included.
      Synopsis: The series begins on March 21, 3085 with the crash of an Earth spaceship, that encountered a time warp while approaching Alpha Centauri on August 19, 1980. The spaceship is manned by three NASA astronauts, one of whom has died in the crash. The other two astronauts are unconscious but are rescued by a human who carries them to an old bomb shelter. After the human opens a book containing historical text and pictures of Earth circa 2500, the two astronauts are convinced that they are indeed on a future Earth.
     The crash is also witnessed by a young chimpanzee who tells his father, a village official who alerts the authorities. Ape counselor Zaius (an analog of the Dr. Zaius character from the original movie), notes that another such incident occurred ten years earlier. He orders the head gorilla, General Urko (Mark Lenard), to find the humans and bring them back alive. Zaius wants to find out as much as he can about the humans before they are eventually killed. Zaius doesn't trust General Urko to follow his orders and bring back any surviving humans, so he sends along his newly-hired chimpanzee assistant, Galen (Roddy McDowall, who played Cornelius and Caesar in most of the film versions).

     The two astronauts, Colonel Alan Virdon (Ron Harper) and Major Peter J. Burke (James Naughton), go back to their ship to check the ship's chronometer. They are more than 1000 years in the future from when they left Earth. Virdon insists on retrieving the ship's flight log in the hopes that they will be able to analyze it and be able to return to their own time period, but while they are at the ship, they are captured, and the old man is subsequently killed by a group of apes.

     Galen finds the human book that the old man had been carrying. He reads parts of the book and begins to doubt the history that he has been told: apes have always been dominant, and humans have always been inferior and subservient. When Galen finds out that Urko has arranged for the two astronauts to escape and be killed in the attempt, he prevents the shooter and helps the humans escape.
     Galen discusses the book that he found with Zaius, who then accuses him of heresy. Galen is sentenced to death for his crime. The two astronauts find out about his sentence and rescue Galen. They are all then declared enemies of the state and become fugitives. The three fugitives wander around the territory that used to be the western United States having various encounters with apes, humans, and old human civilization ruins.
In 1981, several episodes of the series were edited into five made-for-television movies.

Back to the Planet of the Apes
Forgotten City of the Planet of the Apes
Treachery and Greed on the Planet of the Apes
Life, Liberty and Pursuit on the Planet of the Apes
Farewell to the Planet of the Apes 

The television series also spawned it's own merchandise.  Novelizations of several episodes as well as audio stories and filmstrip stories that were comprised of 32 short comic strip films that to this day are very rare!  As you read past the cartoon series, take a look at some pictures of some of the merchandise spawned from the Planet Of The Apes film and television series.

The television series was by no means a success, but it showed that the Planet Of The Apes series had lasting appeal and the saga wouldn't end there.  Before long, an animated series was on television!

A newspaper clipping advertising the debut of the Planet Of The Apes television series!

Return To The Planet Of The Apes (1975) depicted a technologically advanced society, complete with automobiles, film, and television; as such it more closely resembled both Boulle's original novel and early concepts for the first Apes movie which were changed due to budgetary limitations in the late 1960s.
     Produced following the last of the big-screen features and a short-lived live action TV series, this series was among the last Planet of the Apes projects for several years, aside from a number of comic books from Marvel Comics and Adventure Comics, and a series of audio adventures from Power Records.The next project based upon Boulle's concepts would be Tim Burton's reimagining a quarter century later.
     Along with the second film Beneath the Planet of the Apes, this is one of only two original Planet of the Apes productions in which Roddy McDowall was not involved.  The series features very 1970's style animation, where things only move if they have to!

     Airing on NBC, the series premiered on September 6, 1975 and was broadcast until September 4, 1976, although only thirteen episodes were produced. The series aired Saturday mornings at 11:00am Eastern/10:00am Central.  The series was later shown in reruns on the Sci Fi Channel in 1992 as part of Sci Fi Cartoon Quest.
     Synopsis:   As with the film and the live-action series, Return to the Planet of the Apes involved a handful of astronauts from Earth who were hurtled into the future and found themselves stuck in a world populated by advanced apes and primitive humans. Over the course of the thirteen episodes the astronauts attempted to keep one step ahead of the apes while at the same time trying to make some sense of what had happened. Additionally, they did their best to safeguard the human population from the apes.

     Each episode was self-contained to an extent. The story threads did weave in and out, with characters and plots from earlier episodes popping up in later ones. In order for the series to make any sense, the episodes need to be viewed in order.
     The animated series does chronologically fit with the rest of the Apes universe. It borrows characters and elements from the movies, the TV series, and the original novels. General Urko is borrowed from the TV series. Along with Zaius, Zira, and Cornelius, Brent (renamed here as Ron Brent) and Nova are from the movie series. Krador and the Underdwellers in the animated series are loosely based on the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
     As with the live action television series, the animated series was concluded before the resolution of the storyline, and we do not learn if the astronauts are able to return to their own time period. But the animated series does otherwise offer a conclusion. Doctor Zaius, in recognising the threat of a military overthrow from General Urko, assures that he is relieved of command. Further, Cornelius and Zira, in recognising that Simian Society was established long after human society had deteriorated, believed that the time was right for humans to be offered equal rights to that of apes, and intend to present their proposition to the Senate.

     The series only saw 13 episodes produced but for years, a 14th unfilmed episode, "A Date With Judy," was thought to have existed since one of the novelizations lists it in the book's contents. However, that was actually an early title for the episode "The Unearthly Prophecy."  Several of the episodes were aired out of order. For example, the episode "Terror on Ice Mountain" should be viewed before the episode "Battle of the Titans", but the former was mistakenly aired after the latter. Likewise, the episode "Lagoon of Peril" should be viewed after the episode "Tunnel of Fear". The last episode to air, "River of Flames", should be viewed after "The Unearthly Prophecy", if the series is to be viewed in the proper order.  Despite it's flaws, the series has it's place in Planet Of The Apes lore just as the live action television show does and for many, it remains a nice piece of nostalga.

This poster was released to promote screenings of all five films in theaters showing for the whole day!

 The two posters to the right are quad posters used to promote the first two films in the franchise.

Beneath The Planet Of The Apes features just a cameo of Charlton Heston at the end of the film, because he didn't want to make a sequel but the studio insisted on him at least appearing briefly!










The treehouse playset was one of many items produced by Mego to tie in with the Planet Of The Apes films and television series.

This ad was used in Marvel Comics to promote the upcoming comic book series based on Planet Of The Apes!











The Mego Toy commercials!
 

This is the opening of the excellent documentary, Behind The Planet Of The Apes which you can find on the DVD and Blu-Ray sets!  Both can be ordered below!

Japanese Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Poster

The news for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes doesn't quit coming.  This cool new poster is for the Japan release of the film!

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Pays Tribute To The Original Films

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes continues to bring int he money at theaters, but did you know there are several nods to the original series of Planet Of The Apes films in the new version.  The obvious one is Tom Felton's character saying the line "Take your stinkin’ paw off me you damn dirty ape!” is the obvious one.  Hero Complex though has several more you may have missed.  Check out their article here explaining the references in Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes!

New Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Promo Posters

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes is already in North American theaters, and this weekend it hits in the U.K. and several other countries.  These new promo posters ave been released in the U.K. for the release!

What Direction Will The Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Sequel Go?

As you may very well know right now Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes was number one at the box office this past weekend with about $55 million and drawing rave reviews from critics and movie goers.  The film was fantastic, hands down the best movie this summer.  Naturally sequel talk has already begun and director Rupert Wyatt spoke with Bleedingcool.com about the direction the sequel may take and this is what he had to say: "There’s so much we could do… The ideas I’ve had are all sorts of things, ranging from FULL METAL JACKET with apes… you could start this story again eight years from where we left off, the next generation of apes, those that have come from our protagonists, perhaps going in to a conflict with humans and showing real fear, in the same way as going into war for young soldiers in this day and age, telling their story. Or how apes are taking over cities, and being moved into human environments and having to interact with them and deal with things that are part of our culture and understand and evolve through them. Spies that are in the employ of the apes, working against humans and humans maybe existing underground, because that’s a way they can avoid the virus, coming up above ground wearing gas masks, and maybe that’s what dehumanises them."  Bring on the sequel as soon as possible as we would love to see more Apes films and soon!

Retroplex Cinema: The Planet Of The Apes Saga Part 2 - The Sequels

Our 3 part look back at the Planet Of The Apes saga continues.  The reboot film, Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters today and as it does, Retroplex Cinema is revisiting one of the greatest franchises of all time.

Part 1  -Planet Of The Apes
Part 2 - The Sequels
Part 3 The Television Show & Cartoon

Planet Of The Apes was a huge success at the box office.  It would go on to spawn four sequels and become one of Hollywood's biggest franchises of all time. Here is a look at the four sequels spawned from Planet Of The Apes!

Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970):  The first sequel made healines when it was released because Charlton Heston was always against doing one.  The studio though did not know how to sell the film so eventually they convinced him to at least appear in part of the film.  (Spoiler Warning) He shows up towards the end and Heston insisted his character be killed so he would not return for anymore films!

Synopsis: Astronaut Brent is sent to rescue Taylor but crash lands on the Planet of the Apes, just like Taylor did in the original film. Taylor has disappeared into the Forbidden Zone so Brent and Nova try to follow and find him. He discovers a cult of humans that fear the Apes' latest military movements and finds himself in the middle. Tension mounts to a climactic battle between ape and man deep in the bowels of the planet.

The film was again a success at the box office with almost 19 million in ticket sales and of course another sequel would be on the way!

Escape From the Planet Of The Apes (1971): With the Earth destroyed at the end of the second film, the writers had to be creative with the third film in the series.  The film deals with many social issues of the time as well as taking the films in a lighter direction with a little more comedy, despite the dark ending of the film!  Actor Roddy McDowell returns to the series for a third round as Cornelius and really becomes the face of the franchise over the years!

Synopsis: Following the events in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes", Cornelius and Zira flee back through time to 20th Century Los Angeles, where they face fear and persecution similar to what Taylor and Brent suffered in the future, and discover the origins of the stream of events that will shape their world.

The film made 12.3 million at the box office and the franchise still had legs.  The film played well with family audiences due to it's lighter tone.  Production would begin soon on a fourth film in the series, in which the saga would take a darker turn!

Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes (1972): The history of Conquest may be the most interesting of all the Apes films.   The film takes a much darker direction as we see the rise of the apes as they rebel against the humans!  The new film Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes is inspired by this installment of the saga! The film is most noted for changes to the original opening and original ending!  The ending was changed to be less violent in order to get a G rating.

Synopsis: Cornelius and Zira's son Caesar leads apes to revolution in this installment of the apes saga. Dogs and cats have been wiped out by a plague and now apes are household pets that are treated like slaves. Caesar has the intelligence to fight this oppression.  He leads the apes in a violent rebellion against the humans taking over the planet!

Below are looks at the original opening and ending.  If you have not seen the film then you may not understand this exactly, but we wanted to include it because it's important to the history of the film!

Original opening: Of the five original films, Conquest is the only entry filmed in Todd-AO35, (the other Apes pictures were filmed in Panavision). Conquest also is the only Apes film without a pre-title sequence. The script describes a pre-title scene where police on night patrol shoot an escaped ape and discover that his body is covered with welts and bruises as evidence of severe abuse (in a later scene depicting Armando's interrogation, Governor Breck refers to the "ape that physically assaulted his master," thereby prompting MacDonald to retort that the attack must have been the result of severe mistreatment). Why the scene was cut is unknown, although John Jakes does depict it in the first chapter of his novelization of the movie. It was also visualized in the Marvel Comics adaption of the film in the early 1970s (which was probably based directly on the screenplay and not on the final edit of the actual film). The Blu-Ray unrated version (which restored many other graphic scenes) does not contain the pre-credit opening. There is no evidence that the sequence in the script was ever included in any cut of the film.

Original Ending:  Caesar has Breck marched out to be executed. MacDonald appeals to Caesar to show mercy to his former persecutor. Caesar ignores him, and declares henceforth apes everywhere will repeat the revolt that happened in the Ape Management complex. The revolution will lead inevitably to Mankind's fall after which the apes will dominate the Earth and enslave the few remaining humans. Breck and all the other humans are then beaten to death as the film abruptly ends.

     Test audiences reacted badly to the original ending. The studio re-edited the ending with existing footage. The plot twist of the chimpanzee Lisa saying the word "No" was added to the film via dubbing a new voice-over and Roddy McDowall was brought back to record new dialogue. The new ending allowed Caesar to show some degree of mercy and to leave the audience with the hope of peaceful co-existence between apes and humans. This ending was also changed in hopes of getting a G rating from the MPAA as the previous films had. Nevertheless, the film was given a PG rating.
      The 5-disc Blu-ray Disc that is available contains the original and theatrical cut of Conquest. It contains more footage of the graphic violence cut during the climatic battle scenes and the original dark ending.  You can order that set right here!  Once again it was a success and a sequel would come!  The final battle for the Planet Of The Apes!

Battle For The Planet Of The Apes (1973): The final film in the saga would take place ten years after Conquest.   After conquering the Earth, ape leader Caesar wants the ruling apes and enslaves humans to live in peace.Of course it doesn't turn out this way.  The budget was cut tremendously for the final film and it shows.  The ape make up is very sub standard and the set design suffers as well.  None the less the film turned out decent and is a favorite of many in the series.

Synopsis: After conquering the oppressive humans in "Conquest for the Planet of the Apes", Caesar must now keep the peace among the humans and apes. Gorilla General Aldo views things differently, and tries to cause an ape civil war. In the meantime, other human survivors learn of the ape city, and decide they want to take back civilization for themselves, thus setting the stage of warring ape factions and humans

The film is also noted for its drastically different extended cut.  The extended cut originally aired on television back in the 70's and recently is available on the Blu-Ray discs.  

Here is a look at the extended cut of Battle For The Planet Of The Apes featuring several extended or deleted scenes.

    One scene takes place after Aldo chases teacher Abe, where MacDonald reminds him why humans should not say "no" to an ape.
Another scene towards the end of the film shows the beginnings of the House of Mendez cult, as the humans in the city are about to fire off the doomsday bomb (as seen in Beneath the Planet of the Apes), but decide not to, as it would threaten the world. In Beneath, one can see many signs of Mendez in the Forbidden Zone, a hymnal on the pipe organ reading "Mendez II", busts of past leaders of the mutant society (such as Mendez XIV), and the mutant leader in Beneath is also named Mendez. It is clear that Governor Mendez is a different leader than his predecessors, Kolp and Breck, since he is more sympathetic to the apes; so long as they do not invade their territory.

Additional scenes are as follows:
-- Near the end of the opening credits, the score continues to its original ending for 25 seconds, with extra footage of General Aldo approaching on a horse.
-- The chase of the teacher of the apes is longer by 20 seconds.
-- The mutant chief is walking around in his HQ, and has more dialogue.
-- The entry into the ruins of the Forbidden City of the ape scout party with Caesar is 40 seconds longer, with more dialogue.
-- The escape from the Forbidden City shows more footage and dialogue involving the apes.
-- The scene where Cornelius is "shot" by a human boy begins slightly earlier, making it clear that the shooting is a game — which makes more sense, since no mutant party had yet even approached the ape city.
-- DELETED SCENE: In this edited scene, Governor Kolp tells his lieutenant to fire an atomic missile on Ape City when he gives the signal.
-- The mutant assault is 45 seconds longer. In this sequence there were three more smaller cuts that reduced the battle scene by 40 additional seconds, and originally there was no musical score.
-- The scene where the Governor Kolp calls "Sergeant York" is missing.
-- There are additional shots and dialogue before the mutants lay down the smoke screen.
-- 355 more seconds of the battle were cut.
-- The scene where Aldo kills Governor Kolp and his followers in the school bus has been restored.
-- The fight between Aldo and Caesar is longer.
-- DELETED SCENE: The new Governor Mendez talks the mutant lieutenant out of firing the atomic missile. As they argue, they discover it is the ALPHA-OMEGA bomb. Only with this sequence reinserted the odd cut from the Caesar conversation involving the humans to the ending sequence makes a more sense.



The film was a success at the box office despite its noticeable flaws and the Planet Of The Apes franchise would not be dead!  In next week's final part of our look at the Planet Of The Apes saga we will look at the television show and cartoon  as well as more neat stuff from the Planet Of The Apes saga!

International Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Poster

This new poster for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes has shown up to promote the film overseas!

Retroplex Cinema: The Planet Of The Apes Saga Part 1 - Planet Of The Apes (1968)

Welcome to a special edition of Retroplex Cinema!  Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters next Friday so we take a look back at the original Planet Of The Apes saga over the next three weeks in a special multi-part edition of Retroplex Cinema.

Part 1 - Planet Of The Apes 
Part 2 - The Sequels
Part 3 - The Television & Cartoon Show

Planet Of The Apes (1968) is a science fiction classic and one that if you haven't seen by now, you are definitely missing out.  Be warned that there may be spoilers in this article, so if you haven't seen it, be prepared!  The film was based on a novel by author Piere Boulle, and starred Charlton Heston, one of Hollywood's biggest stars of the time.  The film was a huge success by 1968 standards and would spawn four sequels, a television show, an animated series, and a 2001 remake.  Those will all be discussed in parts 2 and 3 of this special Retroplex Cinema.  The original 1968 film tells the story of an astronaut crew who crash-land on a strange planet in the distant future. Although the planet appears desolate at first, the surviving crew members stumble upon a society in which apes have evolved into creatures with human-like intelligence and speech. The apes have assumed the role of the dominant species and humans are mute animals wearing animal skins. Quite a bold and fascinating concept especially for the 1960's.  The civil rights movement was in full swing, political times were changing constantly, and everyone it seems was finding their place in society.  Planet Of The Apes was almost the perfect allegory for the time.

     The script was originally written by Rod Serling but had many rewrites before eventually being made.  Upon the advice of Charlton Heston, the producers chose Franklin J. Schaffner to direct the film. Schaffner's changes to the script included creating a more primitive ape society, instead of the more expensive idea of having futuristic buildings and advanced technology. Filming took place between May–August 1967, mostly in California and Arizona, with the opening scene shot at Lake Powell, Utah. The film's budget was around $5,800,000.  A highly expensive film for that time!

      Planet of the Apes was released on February 8, 1968 in the United States and was a huge commercial success, gaining $32,589,624 at the international box office. The film was groundbreaking for its prosthetic makeup techniques by artist John Chambers, and was well received by critics and audiences.

    The basic plot is as follows:  In the year 3978A.D. a spaceship with a crew of 4 crashes down on a distant planet. One of the crew members had died in space and the other 3 head out to explore the planet. They soon learn that the planet is much like their own. They then find the planet is inhabited by intelligent apes. One of the men is shot and killed and the others are taken to the apes' city. There, one undergoes brain surgery and is put into a state of living death. The other befriends some of the apes but is feared by most. After being put through ape trial he escapes with a female human native to the planet. After helping his ape friends escape a religious heresy trial he escapes out into the wilderness with the female. There he learns the planet might not be so distant after all.  Sounds simple yes, but the depth of a story like this has to be seen to truly appreciate it.  Like we said earlier, if you haven't seen this film yet, then you are missing out!  It truly is a classic piece of science fiction!

     The film still resonates today with it's meanings and philosophical ideals.  The phenomenon of Planet Of The Apes still survives in evidence of the new film hitting theaters next Friday.  Planet Of The Apes has spawned comics books, novels, toys, lunch boxes, parodies, and like we said four sequels, a television show, a cartoon, and a remake.  The sequels are titled Beneath The Planet Of The Apes, Escape From The Planet Of The Apes, Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes, and Battle For The Planet Of The Apes.  In the next part of this special Retroplex Cinema we will take a brief look at each sequel in the series.    Until part two though, check out the images below of the original novel, a couple of comic book covers, and the original trailer for Planet Of The Apes!  You can purchase the original film on Blu-Ray or DVD from TMIAJ, or buy the complete box set on Blu-Ray or DVD also!

Comic-Con 2011: Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Footage

This awesome new footage was shown during the Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes panel.  ROTPOTA hits theaters August 5th.

Comic-Con 2011: Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Clip

This new clip from the film comes courtesy of IGN.  Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters on August 5th.

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Comic-Con 2011: Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Sizzle Reel

Take a look at this awesome sizzle reel/extended trailer for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes which hits theaters August 5th!

Two Clips From Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters on August 5th and check out these two amazing clips from the film introduced by Andy Serkis, who plays Cesar in the film.

New Viral Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Videos

The marketing campaign continues for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes with two new viral videos.  Watch as the apes use machete's!

U.K. Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Poster

This incredible poster has been released in Europe for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes. Cesar stares at you and says go see this movie or else.....

Third Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Trailer

This movie just looks awesome.  Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters on August 5th.

New TV Spots For Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes hits theaters on August 5th and here are two new television trailers running on networks now!

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Intelligence Test Viral Video

 The viral marketing continues for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes.

German Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Trailer

This German trailer for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes features a bit more new footage of the prequel/reboot of the popular franchise from the 1960's and 70's.

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Goes Viral

These new videos have popped up as part of the viral marketing campaign for Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes.  Never knew a chimp could play a video game did you?